“What we also have to recognize is, is that our homicide rates are so much higher than other industrialized countries. I mean by like a mile. And most of that is attributable to the easy, ready availability of firearms, particularly handguns.”
“And as long as you can go into some neighborhoods and it is easier for you to buy a firearm than it is for you to buy a book, there are neighborhoods where it’s easier for you to buy a handgun and clips than it is for you to buy a fresh vegetable — as long as that’s the case, we’re going to continue to see unnecessary violence.”
“People just say well, we should have firearms in kindergarten and we should have machine guns in bars. You think I’m exaggerating — I mean, you look at some of these laws that come up.”
–President Obama, remarks at a town hall at Benedict College, Columbia. S.C., March 6, 2015
These claims by Obama were so outlandish that Ripley wouldn’t have believed them let alone the WaPo Fact Checker so it sent Glenn Kessler in search of the truth. Here is how Glenn dissected and evaluated each of the Prez’s assertions.
‘Our homicide rates are so much higher than other industrialized countries …by like a mile”
When Glenn called the White House out on this one and especially the “by like a mile” phrase, Obama’s minions tried to walk it back a bit but Glenn held them to exactly what the Prez said; he told the students the United States had the highest homicide rate among the nations of the industrialized world which is both factually incorrect and a flat out lie. These statements were made by a person that couldn’t pick the gun out of a line up with golf clubs!
The “industrialized countries” is generally recognized to be the 36 countries the Organization for Economic Cooperation uses for its statistical analysis. The OECD says the average homicide rate among the 36 countries is 4.1 per 100,000 people.
Brazil tops the list with a homicide rate of 25.5, or six times the average, with Mexico next at 23.4 followed by Russia at 12.8. Tied for fourth place are Chile and the United States at 5.2 followed closely by Estonia at 4.7.
United States does have an above average rate but the Obama said that U.S. rate was higher “by a mile” when in fact the rate is five times lower than Brazil and four times lower than Mexico.
“It’s easier for you to buy a handgun and clips than it is for you to buy a fresh vegetable’
Appears no one could quite figure out what the Prez was trying to say here in that Glenn could find any place in the U.S where background checks are needed to buy vegetables. Even the White House couldn’t provide an explanation for Obama’s “vegetables and guns” comment?
“People just say well, we should have firearms in kindergarten and we should have machine guns in bars… You think I’m exaggerating — I mean, you look at some of these laws that come up.”
Some states may allow firearms to be carried into bars and restaurants (unless the owner objected), but NO PLACE allows machine guns in bars. As a matter of fact, it takes a Federal license to even own a machine gun!
As for guns in schools, particularly college campuses, Florida is considering a proposal that does not specifically address kindergartens but would allow some school personnel to carry guns, provided it is approved by school administrators and would be limited to former or current law enforcement or military personnel but they must receive training at law-enforcement academies. The Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which supports gun restrictions, says “the vast majority of states – 48 of them – and the District of Columbia generally prohibit any person from carrying a firearm onto or possessing a firearm on school property, within safe school or gun-free school zones, on school-provided transportation, or at certain school-sponsored events.” Most states also require the expulsion of students who bring firearms onto school property, the groups says.
Appears to make this statement, Obama had been drinking in bars rather than carrying a machine gun into one
The Pinocchio Test
The president was “playing fast furious” I mean “fast and and loose” with the truth when he was talking to this group of college students no less. There is NO excuse for the claim that in some neighborhoods, it is easier to buy a gun than vegetable — or to say he’s “not exaggerating” when he claims that some people have proposed laws that would allow machine guns in bars … unless he, as President, intends to introduce legislation to make machine gun ownership in the US.
As for the US ranking on homicides among the industrialized nations, we might be slightly above average but to claimed the United States had rates that were higher “by like a mile” is so totally Bogus but typical Obama. Tell a lie often enough and people might start to believe it!
The gun debate is serious enough that it should not be poisoned by exaggerated claims and faux statistics that are so outlandish that the students should have given the president a “strolling ovation” as they walked out on his speech. The WaPo’s Glenn Kessler only awarded the Pres Three Pinocchios for this BS presentation but I believe he shortchanged him. This one should certainly deserve the coveted Four! If you want to see exactly what Glenn said, I’ll include his article uncut and uncensored below.